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fishingboatproceeds:

“John Green, while death threats to Laci Green are bad, no arguing wtih that, Laci’s done a lot more negative things than casually use the word “tranny”. She has videos up about her islamophobia as well as several that border on fat shaming.”

I have a lot of messages like this.

1. We can’t have constructive conversations about how to talk with each in respectful ways when we threaten people, because then the threatened are forcibly removed from the conversation.

2. I’m not attempting to defend transphobia or fat-shaming or islamophobia or islamophilia or anything else. I’m just saying that we literally cannot have productive conversations when voices are silenced by threats. So you can not say to Laci, “Hey, I don’t think Islam is inherently misogynistic, because of A, B, and C,” because Laci is not here, because she is staying away from the Internet for fear that further participation in it will lead to her murder. That’s not a good way to change the discourse about islamophobia or anything else.

MARGINALIZED PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM CONVERSATION BECAUSE ADDRESSING SAID ISSUES IS ALREADY A RISK.

OPPRESSION IS A THREAT.

YOU ARE REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, AND IT IS MAKING ME SAD THAT YOU CAN BE SO SMART BUT SO DAMN IGNORANT.

YOU ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. NOW WE ARE YELLING, THOUGH. I’M NOT SURE THIS IS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER.

You’re right that marginalized people are consistently removed from conversations, but in fact on tumblr and on YouTube there are strong and vibrant communities who feel comfortable addressing issues related to gender and race and sexuality and a wide variety of other topics that are often considered taboo, which is why you and I are here, having this discussion in public. 

I’m not denying the reality of privilege. I just don’t think death threats improve the quality of discourse, and I don’t think threatening or harassing or scaring anyone is ever okay.

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    I don’t know where I was when this was happening, but here’s something I learnt in primary school: Two wrongs don’t make...
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    The thing about this is that trans* people have to deal with this on a day-to-day basis just for being trans*. Like, the...
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This is the tumblr of John Green, the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Fault in Our Stars, Looking for Alaska, An Abundance of Katherines, Paper Towns, and half of Will Grayson, Will Grayson. I am also the co-creator of the vlogbrothers youtube channel.

I am best known on tumblr for a drizzle/hurricane metaphor.

You can ask me questions only if you agree not to get mad if I don't answer.

FAQ:
1. Why is your tumblr name fishingboatproceeds?
2. What does DFTBA stand for?
3. Do you and Hank consider yourself nerdfighters?
4. So, does the actual John Green run this tumblr, or is it run by an assistant?
5. Would you release a book that isn't YA?
6. Would you ever write a YA book with an adult in a key role?
7. How do I become a nerdfighter?
8. What's the story behind Pizza John?
9. How do you pronounce bufriedo?
10. How do you feel about the TFiOS movie rights being optioned?
11. Do you get a thrill from killing your characters?
12. "You can love someone so much...But you can never love people as much as you can miss them." 
Can you talk about this?
13. What's this drizzle/hurricane metaphor that you're best known for on tumblr?

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