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Q: I just read an article on Buzzfeed; in it, Shira Lazar suggests that Vlogbrothers could logically become a paid subscription channel because of the devotion of Nerdfighters. What are your thoughts on this?
asked by bramtic

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A. That’s nice of Shira to say, but why would we do that?

Let’s say that you’re a nerdfighter and you’re living in poverty. (Lots of nerdfighters are.) Why would I exclude you from the community just because you don’t have access to the same resources as someone who is wealthy? That would go against the inclusionism that’s the core of nerdfighteria.

(I’m not just saying this in a feel-good, altruistic way: It would also be a terrible business decision, because at some point in the future you will probably not be poor, and you will be able to support our work by contributing directly or buying a poster or a book or an album or whatever. But you will never know that you like the stuff I make if you were denied the opportunity to watch it in the first place.) 

What makes a lot more sense to me is going to the community and saying: Hey, some of you can pay for this and some of you can’t. That’s cool. If you can pay for it, please do, and in exchange we’ll be able to turn off ads for everyone, which is nice, because ads are gross and annoying and I hate them. If you can’t pay, that’s okay, too.

YouTube’s apparent forthcoming paid subscription model isn’t built like that at all: It’s built to be exclusive and paywalled, which I don’t think works for creators who want to build the awesomest possible audience.

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zaielle:

I’m watching a series on Hulu (with a proxy) and there keep being advertisements for Geico, I’ve seen like 6 different ones.

I still have no idea what Geico is.

An extremely succinct explanation of why the advertiser-driven model for funding the creation and distribution of things is broken—not just for consumers, but also for advertisers.

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Radiohead wouldn’t exist without early major-label funding. The future won’t bring new Radioheads. All I want to say here, truly, is: let’s get used to it.

immutableinscrutable:

In the wake of recent future-of-music discussions—Louis CK’s direct-ticketing move, which may indeed revolutionize touring for artists with that large of an audience, and the Emily White/All Songs Considered/David Lowery thing—I’ve been having arguments about record labels and money.

I was kind of shocked that few people knew the ground-level math, the nuts-and-bolts inconvenient truth: the diminishment of labels means there’s little money to fund the initial touring costs of new bands.

It’s called tour support. Paying for a van/bus, gas, sound person, per diems (meals), motels, and a bunch of other stuff. It’s vital start-up money, it’s the impetus of scores of bands’ careers, and it’s not really available anymore—certainly not to the extent it was when there was more money in music.

This means that there will be fewer bands. 

In fact, most of the most interesting bands that began in the 90s wouldn’t exist.

I can’t prove that there’d otherwise be amazing bands that you would be deeply compelled by, and engaged with, that don’t exist—we’re talking Jimmy Stewart in It’s a Wonderful Life here.  But I think this is our reality. 

I’m not wagging fingers, or wringing my hands. I just think it’d be better for people to know what the deal is.

A guy tweeted: With sympathy, ‘end of labels’ support’ will chnge how we discver & support bands, not deprive.

Alas, that’s untrue. 

There will be fewer bands.

Less money to make movies would mean fewer movies. Less money to fund the start-up of bands means fewer bands.

Think of successful rock bands from the 90s, and imagine that they lacked the funds to circle North America and Europe four or five times within a couple of years. Without that funding, without the essential groundwork of developing an audience, most of the successful 90s bands just wouldn’t be around.

An example I used was Radiohead. No tour support in the early 90s = no Radiohead. This made a few people kinda mad.

(This is a heartbreaking time for Radiohead, after the recent stage collapse. I don’t mean to pick on them. I’m bringing them up because they’re beloved, they’ve made a career pushing themselves, creatively, and they’ve been making album after album, year after year—and, of course, they’re huge)

For a band of Radiohead’s ilk—five people, each an equal member, who need to make a living, after covering huge transportation, personnel (sound guy, tour manager) and production expenses—to put album after album out, year after year, for almost two decades, you need a sizable touring base. 

I estimate that it costs $3,000 to $6,000 a week for a bare-bones tour—yes, very bare-bones. You need to be out hustling on the road maybe 20 to 30 weeks per year, and it takes two or three or four years to develop a viable touring base. (I hate that kind of music-biz jargon, I avoid it whenever I can—please forgive me for not having more elegant terms) 

Averaging those numbers, an absolutely new band needs about $280,000—for very scrappy, uncomfortable touring.

With this budget, you’ll still need a job when you get home. One that doesn’t mind you only working a month at a time, then vanishing for seven weeks, then returning—repeatedly. For years. By nature, that’ll probably be a shitty job. 

Does anybody remember the part of Anvil! The Story of Anvil where the singer/guitarist is, in his fifties, working a minimum-wage food-service job, while his siblings are dentists and lawyers?

This imaginary version of Radiohead doesn’t have the benefit of historical hindsight.  How do you tell girlfriends and parents that pretty long-term poverty, well into adulthood—as your fellow former members of the high school chess club  graduate from medical school—will result in making an extremely nice living, not to mention important work?

Let’s say that “Creep” could’ve been a hit record without a generous promotional fund.

A song on the radio will not pack clubs instantly—and packed clubs, even theaters, are unlikely to be enough to tour without taking tour support from a label. Bands with hit songs still have to circle the country for a couple of years to build an audience, and, from there, a real career. Some people come because they love the single, and, if the show’s great, a live fanbase develops.

“Creep” was not such a gigantic hit that there was an immediate, overwhelming explosion of cash, such that Radiohead could’ve immediately toured, within 2 years of their first album, without money from the label.

That might sound absurd to you. Talk to any professional manager of 90s major-label bands: you may have hit it out of the park, but you’d still be taking tour support—you could’ve probably gotten the label to up the budget, you could’ve gotten stage techs, you could’ve been on an extremely nice bus, you could’ve gotten your own—not shared—rooms on days off, but you’d still be operating on the label’s dime.

No tour support = no Radiohead.

Their pay-what-you-wish experiment was noble. It absolutely would not have worked if they weren’t a huge band.

(I’m freestyling this—I didn’t call up their manager-circa-1994 and investigate numbers. I would be very surprised if Radiohead didn’t rely heavily on tour support for at least three to four years—possibly five to six)

When my first band, Soul Coughing, put out its first album on Slash/Warner Bros., they paid for basics, but no more. We shared rooms. We were crammed into a single van with our gear. It was extremely uncomfortable. We were resentful that we couldn’t get money for a second van. 

We were just scraping by—but we didn’t need jobs for our off-tour lives.

Today, any left-of-center band would be insanely lucky to get that. Radiohead would be an extreme longshot to get that. Soul Coughing wouldn’t have a chance in hell.

Vice published this letter I wrote, in response to a young musician’s pessimistic article, about how being a professional touring musician is still possible:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/dear-vice-anti-anti-touring

Summary: be solo, or a duo, because a full band is financially untenable; work much, much harder, under much more stressful conditions, than bands of earlier generations had to. Be very young, or have the ability to take the broke-ness, the physical and emotional knock-around, that very young people can.

My favorite New York band is called Moon Hooch: three super-fierce dudes in their early 20s. I think they’ll pull it off, and become a successful touring band, because they’re so young, so fiery, and so committed. They will commit to sleeping on floors repeatedly. They opened for me on a month’s worth of shows last year; I came to them kind of embarrassed, like, this is gonna be rough going, you guys in a car, us in a bus, hugely long drives, and the promoters aren’t gonna pay you well. They did it, and they killed it. They are extremely impressive in their warrior ethos.

Kids in punk rock bands will still be around. The Warped Tour will be in good shape.

But can people over 25 do that? For that matter, can people under 25, who are, like me, let’s say, drama-club kids?

One guy I know—super talented, younger musician with tremendous potential—did some touring by Greyhound, which is common these days. He said, “Interstate bus travel will kill your spirit.” 

I don’t think he’s done it since. I know I wouldn’t be able to hack it. 

I know ten or twelve young artists, equally as talented and promising, in the same boat.

I think Radiohead upgraded from a van to a tour bus pretty early in their touring life. Would they have slept on floors, traveled by Greyhound, lived on $10 a day? 

For two years? Or three?

It’s no dis to say that I don’t think they could—I couldn’t either.

I remember reading their press coverage in the 90s. Much of it focused on how they were worn down by a grueling touring life.  Meeting People Is Easy was basically an extended essay on the topic. This may or may not actually be the case—music writers often gravitate to a small part of a band’s story and magnify it, and it accumulates to a tipping point where that story becomes the conventional wisdom—but the impression I got, repeatedly, was that they were tired, and irritated by touring.

(I read a comment along the lines of, “Press coverage is 100% free.” No. Press coverage means somebody was paid money to make phonecalls for two months, cajoling writers into listening, and hopefully reviewing. There are examples of bands that took off like a shot with press by sheer momentum. They are in the extreme minority. Nearly everybody else needs to hire somebody to chase press. You can say to hell with it, but that’ll probably mean that all the other people who shelled out for a publicist will get that press instead. Maybe we’ll get lucky, and at some point nobody hires publicists, and then press becomes 100% free)

No tour support = no Radiohead.

I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m doing great. I make a nice living playing music that I’m fiercely engaged with. I have a fantastic, passionate audience. The Future is working out pretty OK for me. 

The kind of things available to an artist of Louis CK’s size are available to artists of my size, on a much, much lower level. I benefit a lot from having a direct connection to my audience—though Louis’ excellent new move probably isn’t in my near future. I don’t come with such a guaranteed profitable audience that rock clubs’ promoters will tell Ticketmaster to buzz off on my behalf.

I tour cheaply—mostly as a duo, or solo, and about once every three years with a full band, on a tour bus—and, in that case, as stingily as I can. This kind of budgetary vigilance means I make pretty good money.

But this wouldn’t be possible at all, at all, without having had the initial investment of a record company. My career is founded on a few years spent circling the country on tour support from Warner Bros.

I’m a pragmatist. Nobody’s going to cajole Emily White into spending money. We are where we are. People younger than me will spend money on gear, and wi-fi, but not on music. It’s a shame.

Short of the law intervening and imposing a mandatory royalty that huge companies implicitly benefiting from the new cultural landscape—Apple, Google, Microsoft, Optimum Cable, Spotify—must pay—which, of course, they wouldn’t just eat, they’d pass on to the consumer—the truth is that songs are a radically devalued commodity.

Musicians: we must adapt, and make our lives work.

Lowery got shit for bringing up Mark Linkous and Vic Chesnutt, but it’s honestly not off the mark to interpret some Lane-on-Mad-Men desperation. Money is absolutely not worth taking your own life over, but many, many people, in all professions, do it.

Musicians, we need to know more about our financial ins-and-outs than musicians in the past. One reason it sucks is that we tend to be exceptionally not-good at this—we relied on hopefully-trustworthy business managers and accountants, whom most of us can no longer afford—and, full disclosure, I still have one, because I was wretchedly hopeless doing it on my own, and it’s an expense I wish I didn’t have to deal with.

Listeners, understand what’s happening—not what’s going to happen, but what is happening.

There will be fewer people making a living playing music. 

There will be fewer bands.

There will probably never be a band of the same species as Radiohead. There would be no Radiohead if they’d started today.

I’m surprised—and saddened—that everybody didn’t, by now, fully understand this. 

I know it’s tumblr and long text posts are for scrolling past, but if you have a chance, read this. It’s true for music, and it’s also true for publishing.

Last year, Gigaom published a flattering story in which they used me as an example of why book publishers are no longer as important as they used to be. Authors can build their own brands now, and reach out to their own audiences.

But in fact, my career is an example of precisely the opposite: My publisher invested tons of time and money into me for a very long time: They paid for tours that hemorrhaged money. They paid for advertising. They fought to get me distributed in mass market channels even though my books were “literary.” And most importantly, they provided editorial support and guidance that made the books themselves far better than they would be if I published them by myself.

Not only that, but without Penguin there is no vlogbrothers, because Hank and I needed the initial activation energy of the first 500-1000 nerdfighters to make Brotherhood 2.0 work. Almost all of those nerdfighters were fans of my books who came to the project through Penguin’s marketing efforts.

So there is no Looking for Alaska or The Fault in Our Stars without the people who work at Penguin, and the narrative that Amazon wants you to believe—that publishers make books more expensive than they need to be and keep authors from making money—is a lie.

A world where everyone self publishes will mean fewer authors making a living and fewer books that reach their full potential as art. Period.

(via wilwheaton)

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How to Run a Business That Doesn’t Suck: The Hank and John Green Rules

So Hank and I run or help run several businesses at the moment: Vidcon, DFTBA Records, the juggernaut that is 2-D Glasses, ecogeek, vlogbrothers, scishow, and crashcourse, as well as administering the nonprofit Foundation to Decrease Worldsuck. These are not huge businesses or anything (and in some cases are not even profitable), but many of them have employees and revenue and function like any other business, so recently Hank and I have developed some Rules for Running a Business That Doesn’t Suck, which we thought we’d share.

Rule 1: Don’t be a dick. This is the governing law of the Internet, as created by the great Wil Wheaton, and we try to apply it to our businesses. Not being a dick mostly means treating your clients and customers respectfully, and focusing on creating value rather than creating profit, and generally being reasonably kind and personable when it comes to business relationships.

Rule 2: Increase Awesome or Decrease Suck. If an idea won’t increase world awesome or decrease worldsuck, we won’t do it. (And if we’re doing something that no longer feels like it is increasing awesome or decreasing suck, we stop doing it.)

Rule 3: Minimize lawyering. Hank and I tend to lose interest in any endeavor when a lot of lawyers become involved. Basically, if we require lawyers other than our cousin Mike or the people he works with, we don’t do it.

Rule 4: Employ more people per dollar of revenue than PepsiCo. This is very important to us. So one of the emerging metrics for a company’s “success” is revenue generated per employee. PepsiCo generates more than $196,728 in revenue per employee. (That may seem ludicrously high, but it’s much lower than many companies: Google generates $1,900,000 every year per employee.) The thinking goes that successful companies generate a lot of money per employee. Our thinking is that it is both good business and good citizenship to invest revenue in new employees.

Rule 5: Keep promises. We try to keep promises even when they are very inconvenient and expensive to keep, such as when Amazon Germany ships out a thousand unsigned preorders of your new book even though you signed more than enough copies for them to ship to their customers. 

Rule 6: Pay tops out at 10x average worker pay. Pretty simple, really: The highest paid employees of a company shouldn’t make more than 10 times the average employee’s pay. (Current estimates in the US indicate CEOs make between 185 and 310 times more than the average worker.) Capping this at a multiple of ten means everyone is invested in seeing the company grow and succeed.

Rule 7: Have awesome customers. If you don’t like the people who watch and read and wear the stuff you make, then you will not have any fun. Speaking of which…

Rule 8: Have fun. Our grandfather wrote thousands of lists in his life—grocery lists, lists of business ideas, pros and cons of taking different jobs. Almost all of his lists ended “Have fun!” We think this is good advice.

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This is the tumblr of John Green, the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Fault in Our Stars, Looking for Alaska, An Abundance of Katherines, Paper Towns, and half of Will Grayson, Will Grayson. I am also the co-creator of the vlogbrothers youtube channel.

I am best known on tumblr for a drizzle/hurricane metaphor.

You can ask me questions only if you agree not to get mad if I don't answer.

FAQ:
1. Why is your tumblr name fishingboatproceeds?
2. What does DFTBA stand for?
3. Do you and Hank consider yourself nerdfighters?
4. So, does the actual John Green run this tumblr, or is it run by an assistant?
5. Would you release a book that isn't YA?
6. Would you ever write a YA book with an adult in a key role?
7. How do I become a nerdfighter?
8. What's the story behind Pizza John?
9. How do you pronounce bufriedo?
10. How do you feel about the TFiOS movie rights being optioned?
11. Do you get a thrill from killing your characters?
12. "You can love someone so much...But you can never love people as much as you can miss them." 
Can you talk about this?
13. What's this drizzle/hurricane metaphor that you're best known for on tumblr?

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